BP measurements and Stethoscope use

Ehud Zamir ezamir at UNIMELB.EDU.AU
Mon Sep 16 23:17:43 UTC 2013


Dear Rob
Do you know whether, in your wife's case, PE was considered and judged to be unlikely, or simply not considered?
Ehud
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From: robert bell [rmsbell at ESEDONA.NET]
Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 2:55 AM
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Subject: Re: [IMPROVEDX] BP measurements and Stethoscope use

My wife was diagnosed with asthma and given bronchodilator for a week or so - turned out to be a pretty severe pulmonary embolus with a Factor V Leidin problem.

Rob
On Sep 14, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Benbassat Jochanan wrote:

OK, the stethoscope has a limited value for the examination of the heart. What about for the examination of the lungs, particularly for the initial evaluation of a patient with acute dyspnea?

Jochanan Benbassat

From: Peggy Zuckerman [mailto:peggyzuckerman at GMAIL.COM]
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 12:43 AM
To: IMPROVEDX at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG<mailto:IMPROVEDX at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG>
Subject: Re: [IMPROVEDX] BP measurements and Stethoscope use

Rob,
If someone invented the stethoscope yesterday, and tried to introduce it to the medical world, advising that one could just "listen" to the varying sounds, and from there, diagnosis with certainty a wide range of diseases and problems, he would be laughed off the block.  When there are more objective ways to measure hearts, which permit comparisons between professionals and institutions, listening with a stethoscope sounds like the equivalent of my touching the child's head with the back of my hand.  Tells me something, but not much, and not verifiable.
Peggy Z
www.peggyRCC.wordpress.com<http://www.peggyRCC.wordpress.com>

On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 1:17 PM, robert bell <rmsbell at esedona.net<mailto:rmsbell at esedona.net>> wrote:
Dear Bill,

I have often thought that taking blood pressure in the office is one of the worst things that the medical profession does



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