Another argument for patient's access to their test results

Vic Nicholls nichollsvi2 at GMAIL.COM
Wed Apr 23 15:14:46 UTC 2014


How can we leverage those paper essays and check off sheets that we get 
from docs? I can get a 4-8 page check off the problem list, wouldn't it 
be easier to have that done on computer and then spit out a summary for 
the physician?

The other is what about a computerized list of potential dx's and a 
differential dx list to help the doc? They could go through and see what 
looks good and choose it. Then if the first dx isn't right, go down the 
differential list and see what looks good from that?

Not saying docs can't go out of it but something a little better would 
seem to help.



On 4/23/2014 10:06 AM, Robert Bell wrote:
> How can we focus on improving errors in diagnosis if the basic 
> communication systems are so imperfect?  First things first?!
>
> Rob Bell
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> On Apr 23, 2014, at 3:58 AM, "Hoffer, Edward P.,M.D." 
> <EHOFFER at MGH.HARVARD.EDU <mailto:EHOFFER at MGH.HARVARD.EDU>> wrote:
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>> I tell my patients that while few doctors would consciously ignore 
>> abnormal test results, a small percentage of test results get lost by 
>> the lab, misfiled, sent to the wrong doctor who discards them, etc.  
>> Hence a “closed loop” is much safer than “no new is good news.”
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> Edward P Hoffer MD, FACC, FACP
>>
>> *From:*Peggy Zuckerman [mailto:peggyzuckerman at GMAIL.COM]
>> *Sent:* Monday, April 21, 2014 12:18 PM
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>> their test results
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>> Quite similar to this is the very frequent situation in which a 
>> patient is told re the blood labs, "We'll call if there is a problem; 
>> otherwise, don't expect to hear from us".  Stats indicate that some 
>> 15-18% of labs with abnormalities are not reported to patients.  With 
>> the millions of tests done, that percentage reveals a tremendous 
>> weakness in our system, and another reason to be pro-active in 
>> getting and reviewing one's own labs.
>>
>> Moreover, that statistic does not indicate whether the reported 
>> problems suggested by the abnormal labs ever trigger the proper 
>> follow up, not to mention are used efficiently in the diagnosis.  
>> Case in point:  a PSA test is higher than normal, and patient is told 
>> to see specialist.  Is there a formal referral, are the abnormal labs 
>> provided to the new specialist, are new labs prescibed, does the GP 
>> inform expect and prepare for a response from the specialist?  No 
>> stats on any of that, which are certainly "delayed diagnosis" incidents.
>>
>> If these labs and the value of them were EXPLAINED to patients, so 
>> that they understood the importance of the abnormal reading, more 
>> appropriate follow up by both patient and doctor would happen.
>>
>> Peggy Zuckerman
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:02 PM, Graber, Mark <Mark.Graber at va.gov 
>> <mailto:Mark.Graber at va.gov>> wrote:
>>
>> In a very disturbing story this week, a radiology tech was accused of 
>> notifying 1000+ women that their mammagrams were normal, although she 
>> didn't know this to be true, and some in fact were not. 
>> http://www.today.com/video/today/54989210#54989210
>>
>> Its my understanding that all women are supposed to receive a copy of 
>> their test result, and its not exactly clear from this report if the 
>> tech just gave women a verbal 'ok', or if she actually altered the 
>> radiologist's report.  This is a class of diagnostic error I've never 
>> encountered before, but I'm hoping that the directly-mailed results 
>> mitigated the tech's false assurances.  If anyone has access to more 
>> facts on this case, I'd be interested to hear them.
>>
>>
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