Has any one ever thought about this?

Victoria Nicholls nichollsvi2 at GMAIL.COM
Fri Apr 25 16:39:03 UTC 2014


http://www.businessinsider.com/ibms-watson-may-soon-be-the-best-doctor-in-the-world-2014-4.

Has it all right here. I'd say give the human doctor the first chance
at it. If the diagnosis is incorrect in terms of patient reporting
back that the treatment didnt work, let it go to Watson. There should
also be the ability to check out different drugs.

I personally would be happy to get rid of the paper copies of stuff
and have people fill out information online, and then have the
computer spit out a report for the doctor to review and see what they
think. I certainly would have had the doctor eyeing me and maybe a
good H&P. Should be less typing for the doctors also, because I surely
didn't expect half my docs having a problem with touch typing.

I don't know if you were being sarcastic or not, so let me say this:
if one is truly serious on working to get rid of errors, then this
computer is a tool to do that. A help to the doctor. I don't blame
doctors for knowing everything, but when bias, lack of education or
just plain hubris get in the way of diagnoses, I do. If doctors are as
pressed for time as I've seen, one of the major complaints, then why a
problem with a tool to help? People are going online and are able to
find medical information that they have the time and inclination for
and not all of it is "bad". My question is why doctors ignore it,
because there is no other word for it. If someone brings Oprah info,
educate the person on where to go. If they bring you UpToDate ...
probably best to look at it. That's where I've seen docs make mistake
time after time, with all due respect. I had a brilliant FP (he moved)
& they figured out who knew what and who they could trust.

I can sit here and show medical based facts that straight out come
from textbooks or other medical sources, and I've had doctors tell me
they can't figure it out but couldn't tell me how I was wrong. They
couldn't give me the sources they used either. One at least told me
the truth in that they couldn't do anything outside of their training.

I'm like ... you can't read a medical textbook?

Things like the above might be a little less offensive to people who
think that because they earn a graduate degree and serve an
apprenticeship, that means they're above learning from the non people
in that class. Many of us have become savvy enough that we can help
doctors in the latest news and all, better care, and less complaints
that docs don't have time to diagnose properly.





nd figure something out?

On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 11:47 AM, Robert Bell <rmsbell at esedona.net> wrote:
> Great idea.
>
> I have often said that the average HCP/physician's brain is too small and
> inadequate to know and process everything in medicine in order to more
> frequently make the right decisions and diagnoses, and that we all need high
> powered computers to help us.
>
> They talk about that magic point in time called singularity where the
> computers are more intelligent than us. So for difficult cases, while we
> wait for that time, why not use the brains of many (multiple human
> computers) to attempt to help solve hard cases?
>
> Victoria, if you were Queen of the realm how would you suggest we go about
> expanding such a system and to effectively integrate it into the healthcare
> we currently have?
>
> What would need to be done and where would one start?
>
> Rob Bell
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 25, 2014, at 3:47 AM, Vic Nicholls <nichollsvi2 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>
> http://www.thedoctorweighsin.com/tough-case-now-can-crowdsource-your-medical-diagnosis/
>
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