Death Certificates

Cameron Powell cameron at PHYSICIANCOGNITION.COM
Sun May 8 04:25:34 UTC 2016


I don’t understand why it would be a bad thing to put the suspected cause of death on a death certificate (perhaps along with a relative level of confidence in the diagnosis, the gold standard of autopsies now being far less available). The cause of death seems rather a big part of what death certificates are for.

In any event, the fact that someone thought the cause of death was medical error, and wrote it down, isn’t dispositive in a court case. Liability is still a question that has to be litigated fairly. So I don’t think trial lawyers will particularly care. And it’s not like patients would only find out about the cause of death being misdiagnosis if someone wrote it on the death certificate. 

Republican or Democrat, I’d see no rational reason to oppose such a bill.



> On May 5, 2016, at 2:56 PM, Vic Nicholls <nichollsvi2 at GMAIL.COM> wrote:
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> Do you have proof of that? I have seen statements regarding caps only hurt patients, it actually made the environment easier to make mistakes because there were not really any consequences of doing so.
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> Vic
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> On 5/5/2016 9:12 AM, Leonard Berlin wrote:
>> Be careful for what you wish for.  The Trial Lawyers would love a law that requires "error in diagnosis" or "delay in diagnosis" to be written on a death certificate.  They would have a somewhat hard time pushing such a law through the Republican House, but would eventually succeed, and then it would quickly pass the Democratic Senate and be signed  by the Democratic President.  The number of medical malpractice lawsuits would immediately skyrocket.
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>> Lenny
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>> Date: Thu, 5 May 2016 08:35:36 -0400
>> From: jgraedon at GMAIL.COM
>> Subject: Re: [IMPROVEDX] Death Certificates
>> To: IMPROVEDX at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG
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>> This is a very interesting concept.
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>> Just out of curiosity, has anyone ever asked the question or sought an answer to the question:
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>> How many times does "Error in Diagnosis" show up on death certificates? If I were a betting person I would guess rare to never.
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>> As to the second "Error in Medicine" I would guess never.
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>> To change that one would need to change the culture of medicine.
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>> Joe
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>> On May 4, 2016, at 11:11 PM, robert bell <0000000296e45ec4-dmarc-request at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG <mailto:0000000296e45ec4-dmarc-request at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG>> wrote:
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>>    It is not common practice to put either Error in Diagnosis, or
>>    Error in Medicine on a death certificate. They seem to require
>>    some kind of diagnosis even if it may be incorrect.
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>>    Could this Society change that with action and recommendations or
>>    would you have to first change litigation law to achieve that?
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>>    Are there any other solutions that would be acceptable?
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>>    This would seem to be part of that data lack that plagues the
>>    Error in Medicine discipline.
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>>    Robert M. Bell, M.D., Ph.C.
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