Tech Can Turn Doctors into Clerical Workers

Tom Benzoni benzonit at GMAIL.COM
Sun May 20 17:14:54 UTC 2018


Purely FYI:
Overhead for commercial insurers = 20%
"This is commonly called "Medical Loss ratio."
To read more, search "Medical Loss Ratio" which is interesting.
What other business has a guaranteed overhead?
And considering this is insurance, that is double ironic.

And the topic is old!
See https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM198010233031703 on
medical-industrial complex; note the date: 1980.

tom

On Sun, May 20, 2018 at 10:56 AM Art Papier <apapier at visualdx.com> wrote:

> Rob,
>
> Good question.  Are you sure the “electorate is not ready for a single
> payer system”?  or could it be that the pharmaceutical industry,
> hospitals, nursing homes, HCPs, etc do not want a single payer system and
> work their hardest to create a perception the public is not ready for a
> single payer system?  Polling data shows the public likes Medicare (“*
> More than seven in 10 suburban residents say they favor cutting federal
> spending in general. But when you get specific, 87 percent oppose cutting
> Social Security and Medicare benefits. And 65 percent support *increasing*
> government spending on infrastructure and public works projects”.
> https://www.hofstra.edu/pdf/academics/css/ncss_2012_ncsspoll.pdf)
>
>
>
> Perhaps we should push for Medicare beginning at age 50. And then slowly
> move to Medicare for all.  My answer to your question is for all fact and
> truth based people to work towards electing a congress and senate that will
> make rational, data driven decisions……  OK so maybe that is delusional to
> think that might happen……  Medicare has an overhead of 3%, many  estimate
> private insurers have an overhead of 15%.  This article cites a saving of
> $350 billion yearly by changing the way we finance healthcare in the US.
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4283267/
>
> Art
>
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> *From:* ROBERT M BELL <rmsbell200 at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 19, 2018 7:59 PM
> *To:* IMPROVEDX at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG; Art Papier <
> apapier at visualdx.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [IMPROVEDX] Tech Can Turn Doctors into Clerical Workers
>
>
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> Yes, Art, rid us of Fee for Service and all the expensive bureaucracy that
> goes with.
>
>
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> But if the pharmaceutical industry, hospitals, nursing homes, HCPs, etc.
> all make fair to good money and the electorate is not ready for a single
> payer system, how do we put patients back into the the front row seats?
>
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> Rob
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> On May 19, 2018, at 12:39 PM, Art Papier <apapier at VISUALDX.COM> wrote:
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> First step is to rid ourselves of fee for service medicine and then the
> EHR will begin to improve.
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