how to teach about cognitive bias

Tom Benzoni benzonit at GMAIL.COM
Wed Jan 23 12:37:23 UTC 2019


Bias is built into airline industry.
The pilot training for visual v instrument is an example.
Pilots are taught to not believe their senses but rely on the instruments.
This is exemplified by the ice cold term "controlled flight init terrain."
Tom B

On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 04:20 Robert Bell <
0000000296e45ec4-dmarc-request at list.improvediagnosis.org wrote:

> Very interesting discussion.
>
> Is bias considered in air pilot simulation training? How do they include
> that?
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> Does the airline industry believe that simulation training would be useful
> in medicine?
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> Rob Bell
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> On Tuesday, January 22, 2019, 9:43:18 PM MST, Nelson Toussaint <
> ntoussaint at TAMARAC.COM> wrote:
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> October 5, 2015
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> 9:30 PM
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> Last summer, I had an opportunity to tour the Hartford HealthCare CESI Lab
> where there is a lot of Simulation in action.  They also have an operator
> that can interject scenario issues to provide unexpected patient responses
> to clinicians during the activity to help them deal with abnormal
> conditions.  I believe this is mainly teaching surgery functions at this
> time.
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>    Nelson Toussaint
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> *From:* Sherrill Franklin [mailto:sfranklin131 at GMAIL.COM]
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 20, 2019 5:48 PM
> *To:* IMPROVEDX at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: [IMPROVEDX] how to teach about cognitive bias
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> Dear Dr. Bell,
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> Yes~ Simulators could provide great training for every conceivable medical
> situation—from helping practitioners with cognitive bias, to identifying
> invisible, but debilitating autoimmune diseases to burn care.  Here are
> some uses (below) of simulators already “in the works.” One is a
> collaboration with Harvard/MIT, another is in use for plastic surgeons,
> another for brain surgery. Some of these articles are a bit old, so, as you
> mentioned, maybe there were obstacles that prevented further development.
> Or perhaps, these capable people just need a bit more running room to work
> out the kinks...
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> https://harvardmedsim.org/training/simulation-instructor-training/
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> https://news.wisc.edu/flight-simulator-for-surgeons-project-joins-computer-science-with-medicine
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> https://www.technologyreview.com/s/415104/a-simulator-for-brain-surgeons/
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> My best,
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> On Jan 20, 2019, at 4:15 PM, Robert Bell <
> 0000000296e45ec4-dmarc-request at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG> wrote:
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> Dear Pat Kroskerry,
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> Sounds promising,
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> I have always felt that medical training would be enhanced using airline
> flight simulator-like approaches.
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> Have these been introduced to medicine yet, and are they effective?
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> Not having heard a lot about such training either here or elsewhere I am
> presuming that there are intrinsic problems as it pertains to medicine?
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> If so it would be sad when one considers the tremendous improvement in
> Safety by the global airline industry over the last 50 years or so.
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> Is it true that there ARE significant problems?
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> Rob Bell, M.D.
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> On Sunday, January 20, 2019, 10:55:58 AM MST, Pat Croskerry <
> croskerry at EASTLINK.CA> wrote:
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> Tom: apologies for the delay in responding. I believe this approach has
> significant potential for teaching about diagnostic failure.
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> Jonathan Howard has just published a case-based guide to critical thinking
> in medicine: Cognitive errors and diagnostic mistakes (Springer) – a great
> resource.
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> We have been using a similar approach here at Dalhousie for a number of
> years. Our teaching manual which documents in detail about 40 cases of
> cognitive error in diagnosis will be published by OUP this year.
>
> Another useful exercise is to take the cases published by Charles Pilcher
> (Medical Malpractice Insights (MMI): Learning from Lawsuits) and work out
> the cognitive biases likely involved.
> https://madmimi.com/p/fa0e2d?fe=1&pact=76716-148560539-8457174274-2b6f035f60fb4d603a886574b0a5af25e2c8ab1d
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> Pat Croskerry MD, PhD, FRCP(Edin)
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> Professor, Department of Emergency Medicine,
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> Director, Critical Thinking Program,
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> Dalhousie University Medical School,
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> Halifax, Nova Scotia
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> CANADA
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> *From:* Thomas Westover <
> 000000040134e744-dmarc-request at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG>
> *Sent:* December 7, 2018 2:03 AM
> *To:* IMPROVEDX at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: [IMPROVEDX] how to teach about cognitive bias
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> Thanks for that tip Lorie
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> I spent a little time today glancing thru the tool kits; It seems that
> they are more academic overviews than specific examples
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> would it be worthwhile for the SIDM community to "crowd source" and have
> interested SIDM members submit short (1-2 paragraph) case
> descriptions/illness scripts that illustrate specific cognitive biases
> (anchoring premature closure etc etc)
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> these could be reviewed by an ad hoc expert group of senior SIDM leaders
> for vetting and then posted on the SIDM website for dissemination to
> residency program directors, medical school faculty members etc
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> I would certainly be interested in such a teaching tool
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> Thanks
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> Tom
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> Thomas Westover MD
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> Cooper Medical School
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> NJ
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> On Thursday, December 6, 2018, 2:32:44 PM EST, Lorie Slass <
> Lorie.Slass at IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG> wrote:
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> There is info on the SIDM site that may be helpful –
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>    1. Assessment of Reasoning Tool <https://www.improvediagnosis.org/art/>
>    – this was developed as a tool to support educators in assessing a
>    learner’s clinical reasoning skills during patient presentations. On the
>    page there are a number of videos that look at elements of clinical
>    reasoning.
>    2. The Clinical Reasoning Toolkit
>    <https://www.improvediagnosis.org/clinicalreasoning/> includes great
>    resources.  Resources in the ‘how we make decisions’ section includes many
>    that focus on cognitive bias -
>    https://www.improvediagnosis.org/clinical-reasoning-toolkit-how-we-make-decisions/
>    3. We maintain a ‘foundational reading’ section
>    <https://www.improvediagnosis.org/foundational-readings/> that
>    includes readings/studies related to cognitive reasoning.
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> Hope these are helpful.
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> _________________________________________
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> Lorie Slass
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> *From:* Thomas Westover <
> 000000040134e744-dmarc-request at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG>
> *Sent:* Thursday, December 6, 2018 2:05 PM
> *To:* IMPROVEDX at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: [IMPROVEDX] how to teach about cognitive bias
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> Does the sidm website have a list of short case presentations that are
> good examples of the various cognitive biases that have been reviewed in
> the literature ?
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> I would like to do a short cognitive bias review session at the beginning
> of our weekly M&M rounds
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> To teach students and residents about what these constructs are and how
> they are relevant in decision making
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> And to teach them that understanding clinical reasoning is just as
> important as obtaining the correct dx
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> Thanks
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> Tom
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> Thomas Westover MD
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Dec 6, 2018, at 1:04 PM, Jarrett, Mark P <MJarrett at NORTHWELL.EDU>
> wrote:
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> Mark
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> I agree – but we often see anchoring based on the initial diagnosis that
> leads to less than ideal outcomes. The key to me is both a good
> differential (don’t always have to be right out of the gate) and purposeful
> reflection and re-evaluation.
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> Mark
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> *From: *Mark Graber <Mark.Graber at IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG>
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> Jason – thanks for continuing to press us all to develop practical
> measures we could all support that would lead to improved diagnosis.
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> I do agree that concordance between an admission and discharge diagnosis
> might be one measure of the adequacy of the diagnostic process in the
> ambulatory setting.  But at the end of the day, I’d argue that ‘getting it
> right’ is likely more important than getting it right in the clinic alone.
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> The agreement between admission and discharge diagnosis is fairly easy to
> measure and study, but this parameter is complicated !  First, in many
> hospitals the discharge diagnoses are assigned by coders whose primary goal
> seems to be centered on optimizing billing, not to capture diagnostic
> accuracy.  Second, and I may be old-fashioned here, but in my humble
> opinion there is no better time or place to make a diagnosis or to revise
> an initial impression.  It is so much easier to concentrate on a patient’s
> problems, consider and complete diagnostic evaluations, and get opinions
> from others during an inpatient stay compared to stretching these out over
> time and space in the ambulatory setting.  In this framework, any
> difference between the admitting and the discharge diagnosis is likely to
> be to the patient’s advantage and a good thing.  The disagreement noted in
> this study is almost certainly multifactorial, but if I had to guess, this
> data may be saying something positive about the diagnostic process in
> showing that the recorded diagnosis did in fact evolve during the admission.
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>     Mark
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> Mark L Graber, MD FACP
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> Chief Medical Officer; Founder and President Emeritus, SIDM
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> *From: *Jason Maude <jason.maude at ISABELHEALTHCARE.COM>
> *Reply-To: *Listserv ImproveDx <IMPROVEDX at LIST.IMPROVEDIAGNOSIS.ORG>,
> Jason Maude <jason.maude at ISABELHEALTHCARE.COM>
> *Date: *Thursday, December 6, 2018 at 9:41 AM
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> This is a very interesting study (freely available) looking at the degree
> of match between the admission diagnosis and what the authors call the exit
> diagnosis.
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> “Our results show that only the 21.67% of cases are identified correctly
> on admission….”
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> Could this be used as a measure for diagnosis quality in hospitals? I am
> sure there will be concerns about the admitting diagnosis and clinicians
> being rushed to put something down without enough time but the ratio
> between the 2 diagnoses for an institution as a whole should be a useful
> indicator as would the trend over time. If the measure drove institutions
> to focus of getting the admitting diagnosis more accurate then that would
> be good.
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> This should also be practical to produce as would not involve the
> clinicians in any additional work.
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> In an earlier discussion, I asked if there were any measures that were
> practical, where there were no concerns and that we could all support but
> got replies. I really feel that if we are to get diagnosis the respect it
> deserves from hospitals and health systems then we need a measure. We have
> all been talking about this for a long time, but I do not sense we are any
> further forward!
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> Regards
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> Jason Maude
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